Camille's Wishful Wednesday: Still Waiting For Prince Charming, But In The Meanwhile...

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

Quick Recap [The last post I wrote about Camille was back in June after her trip to Barcelona. In that post, I talked about how she fell "out of like" with a guy because of his behavior on the trip. Other than that, her trip was a lot of fun] Read Wishful Wednesday posts.

Since that time, she and the guy have remained friends. He even went with her to the birthday party of one of her friends. The friend asked him why he wasn't dating Camille and he responded that he wasn't her type. He's never asked her out by the way. I confirmed with Camille that she wasn't interested in dating this guy. They're just friends, even if he does maintain a slight interest in her.

On another note, since the school year has started, Camille is all ready to be in charge of the student group she's president of. I'm expecting great things from her and I'm still so proud she won that position. She's already instilling new things like networking with other grad school groups and having evaluations for board members. She's on her way to being a very powerful and important. They all start small, you know?

I want to bring up a name I haven't mentioned in a while, King. He and Camille have this ongoing flirtation that doesn't seem to ever be in danger of turning into a relationship. Their new things is discussing what life will be like when they get married.

I feel some kind of way about this because I'd rather hear about his ability to make a relationship function from day to day, but whatever. They have made some crazy assertions in this fantasy. The craziest of which is that they'll have five kids. I can't imagine that seeing as how she'll be a high-powered attorney and he'll be a politician. But we all can dream right?

As of now, there are no serious prospects on the horizon, which sucks. But at least there's temporary amusement.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday:

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

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Last week, I mentioned that Camille was going to Barcelona. I had the weeks wrong. She left last Friday, but I thought she was leaving this Friday. So she's gone on her trip, and I have nothing to report about her week since I'm not in Barcelona to watch.

But I imagine that things are going well with Bachelor #1. At least I hope so. Since she's over the guy she met at the wedding, this guy is the only real prospect around that she hasn't said she's "over".

There is still King, but he's got a lot going on right now with school and work. Camille has never said she's over him, but he's not exactly pursuing her aside from requesting she apply to his job for her internship. That's some lazy ass pursuing if you ask me.

I will say this for Camille: with all she has going on with these men floating around, she's doing a good job of being single. When I think of someone doing well at being single, they're not stressing about their single-hood. They're focusing on bettering themselves and enriching the non-romantic parts of their life.

Camille is focused on school, career planning, her friends, and being healthy. She seems happy and fulfilled and so any man who comes along will be a great addition to her life, but he wouldn't be her whole life.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday: Those Two Guys, Plus One More Makes Three

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

 Quick Recap [My last post about Camille was two weeks ago. In it, I mentioned that King and Bachelor #1 kept coming up. They were screwing with her singlehood by constantly being around and seeming to show interest without making an official declaration. And of course there were big (possible) warning signs associated with each guy.] Read Wishful Wednesday posts.

Camille and King were e-mailing back and forth and she mentioned to him that she applied to be an summer intern where is currently a year-round (I think) intern. She told him she wanted to see if she could get it on her own, but she didn't get that internship, she got another. King was upset that she didn't tell him while she was applying.


Current employees/interns get to be used as references for applications. And since she didn't tell him, she didn't use him as a reference. Camille is okay with the way things turned out because she is much happier with the internship she did get. She'll be doing more stuff and not sharing an office with college kids who are just padding their resumes. By the way, King is also in law school, he's not an undergraduate student.


But I was mostly excited to hear King was upset with Camille. He fussed at her about all the time they could spend together, romantically, but not won't because she'll be interning somewhere else. That means he doesn't see her in a filial way! He sees her as someone he'd like to have sex with. I still don't know if I'm a fan of them together since he seems very one-track-mind-ish. He was happy to make room for her when she was coming to where he was, but now that she's not, I figure she'll barely hear from him this summer.


I want Camille to be with someone who makes room for her, who sees her as more than great-when-convenient. That may not be King, but it sure as hell appears that way sometimes. That being said, I like this guy for her if that one part would change. But alas, you can't bank on tomorrow based on hope of change. So in the real world, he's still a peripheral guy until he gets it together.


Which leads me to Bachelor #1. He seems like a great guy, and we're quite sure he's not gay. But he also is keeping himself on the sidelines, only around enough to garner girl talk, but not enough to see if something real could happen. I guess we're just gonna put this guy on ice for now. You may remember I mentioned him possibly being around a lot because he and Camille were running for top office of a student organization at their school? Well, Camille won her office (yay!), but Bachelor #1 didn't actually run. They still will be spending time together though because they have the same job. So we shall see what becomes of this guy.


Now, I want to talk about this "one more" guy. Two people from our church got married last Saturday. Camille met a man there. So did Michelle, but that will be posted about on Friday. The man Camille met will be called Bachelor #3 for now. He was the best man at the wedding. Having met my boyfriend Easy while he was a groomsman at a wedding, I was loving this story already.


They hit it off at the wedding and she found out very early on that he was a hand holder. He held her hand as he escorted her around the reception room. He held her hand when she helped him load the wedding gifts into the car. He held her hand a lot that night. They exchanged numbers and he's been in contact with her every day since then.


He's a student and their schools are near each other, so he found time to take her out on a date already. They had an early dinner Monday night. There are a few problems with this guy, but I won't get into that yet. The most pressing issue is that Camille is super busy with school right now. As the year is coming to a close, she has a lot on her plate. Law school is very demanding. I think it's great that Bachelor #3 wants to show her a lot of attention and actually asked her out on a date instead of leaving it up in the air if he's genuinely interested. I just wish he was as busy as she is right now so she can finish the semester on a high note and focus on him in the summer.


As of right now, Camille is completely single, but it's nice to know there are good prospects floating around. One can only hope that these guys make it clear what they want from her, so she can make an educated decision. I'm thinking a blog post designed like the dating game. Of course it could be fun for her to do a summer juggle and to blog about that ... Just a thought.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday: Two Guys Tangentially Screwing With Her Singlehood

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

Quick Recap [Two weeks ago, I wrote a post about Camille and how men seem to come out of the woodwork when you make a declaration of singlehood. But Camille has held on to her focus and therefore held on to being single instead of falling back into the pattern of exploring options that may not even be options.] Read Wishful Wednesday posts.

So I told about how Camille met this guy who is one of my boyfriend Easy's friend. It was a quick meeting. And they both acknowledged they found the other attractive, but I guess there was no spark. Easy seems to think more of Camille than his friend does. And Gloria and I seem to think more of the friend than Camille did. That was okay, not a love connection. Easy has a ton more friends that could be potential suitors, ha ha.


But talking to Camille about her love potential, two names keep popping up. Bachelor #1 and King.


I haven't mentioned King almost since I first began writing about Camille. It's worth going back and reading about him, "the like of her life". He has resurfaced, not because he realized his undying love for her, but as a source of comfort for difficulties she's encountering right now with law school. He's a great sounding board for her and his friendship is important to her. But I wish there was more of a romantic strain to their interactions.


I feel this because she says things like, "I wish we could just get married. Skip all that dating stuff." Plus me, no one understands more than me the desire to be done searching for Mr. Right. But doing away with the foundation of a relationship is just silly. Camille knows that, but she still would like to skip ahead to the part where they're just sharing a life. That is a nice fantasy, but right now their interaction seems more filial than romantic, which sucks.


And then there's Bachelor #1. He and Camille keep over-lapping. They're taking this trip together with their classmates and they're working together on this student organization. He just shows up everywhere! Side note, Camille didn't take him the bread pudding dessert. She kept forgetting to give it to him. I think that just because the dessert wasn't delivered, it still counts as a girl giving the guy she likes cookies. But back to now. This guy seems to be trying to get closer to Camille, but he's never made any sort of official intent known.


In the grand scheme of things, it's good because there's no real threat to her single-hood. But it's also frustrating because these guys floating around haven't made their intentions clear. Oh, and there's this other thing about Bachelor #1 aka Kind-of-cool guy, he has questionable sexuality. One of Camille's friends told her that he didn't think Bachelor #1 was gay at all, but wouldn't be surprised if it turned out he was.


Camille is not interested in dating a sexually ambiguous guy, in fact she never questioned his sexuality and was surprised to hear other people question it. Bachelor #1 is from New York, so he has a very different sense of style than the average Chicagoan. I'm sorry, green pants doesn't make you gay when you come from New York, neither does a hoop earring in your ear. But it's slightly troublesome, especially when things he says to Camille could be interpreted as really interested and trying to get into her pants, or very gay and therefore not considering the sexual implications. You want an example? Okay, sharing a bed on the travel trip they're taking soon.


I'm pretty convinced that King doesn't look at Camille as if he were her brother and Bachelor #1 aka Kind-of-cool guy isn't even a little bit gay. But it sucks that their interactions could be interpreted that way. I'd much prefer a clear-cut "I like you and want to get into your pants and I have designs on your dinner plans for the forseeable future". Something like that would be nice, no?

Camille's Wishful Wednesday: Getting Rid of Useless Baggage To Make Room For Worthwhile Possessions

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

So in the past week, Camille has managed to not meet any super questionable men she had to get rid of.

She did, however, get contacted by worthless men from her past.

I don't know that these men are all-around worthless. They are just worthless when it comes to Camille.

One doesn't even have a name on this blog because he's relatively ancient history.

But I will give a brief history in Camille's own words.

She told me he called but that she didn't call back and was worried she was being rude.

I told her she shouldn't feel bad because this particular guy wasn't good enough for her.

She said,

"Just bc he had a hidden child for 10 years, smokes weed EVERYDAY, plays video games EVERYDAY, never took me out, ad has gucci mane as his idol means he's not good enough?"

She was being funny by asking the question because she agrees with me.

Camille says she'll return his call after her finals are over. I hope he was just calling to wish her a belated birthday.

Of course he didn't leave a voicemail cause that would take too much effort. Moving on.

She has decided to give up on King. I suppose that's for the best.

Camille thinks he doesn't like her the way he used to. That's a very good reason to move on.

And then she received a belated birthday call from Malik. They had a three minute conversation in which she acted as uninterested as possible.

From the content of the convo, it seems as if he was feeling her out for the possibility of picking things up where he'd last carelessly left them.

I'm glad she made it pretty clear that wasn't an option.

We decided she would no longer put up with any kind of just-not-that-into-you behavior. I think it's a good rule to follow for myself as well.

Once a guy starts acting up, he's out. That's a luxury those of us without lifelong bonds like marriage and children can do.

And she's gonna try and stay away from guys that are of different religions. It's not something to even be concerned about.

But in Camille's case, these guys come from these religions that have such strict views that dating someone of a different religion is more a hindrance than anything else.

There is a guy that has been brought up that could be interesting.

All I'll say for now is that he comes from an easygoing religion. He's also reported to be a gentleman, from a nice family, and a genuinely good person. And he's an athlete.

I'll leave it at that until there's something more concrete to go on. Such as actually meeting him. He's a friend of a friend.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday: Completely Single Is The Assumption

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced and able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well.***

Last week, I talked about Camille's crush. That has been fun, but it's not the substance that makes a love life.

What does make a love life? Dealing with dates and triumphs and disappointments.

You do all that so that one day, you'll end up with the love of your life and live happily ever after. Or whatever.

Camille isn't at the point of happily ever after yet. She did call Malik back. She left a message simply stating she was calling him back.

That was over a week ago. She hasn't heard back from him yet. I'm not going to say yet. I doubt she will hear back from him.

He may call just to say what's up in a few weeks. But that doesn't count because it won't be a reconciliation attempt. It'll be guy stupid-ness and habit.

But it's okay because Camille did say she was over their situation. I wasn't sure her over-ness was going to stick, but it has.

I'm glad to hear that because Malik wasn't right for her. At least not while he was behaving the way he was. So. On to the next.

There is this other guy who I mentioned waaaay back when I first started writing about Camille on this blog. You can read the post here.

His blog name is King. Camille described him as the "like of her life". She ran into him last week. It kind of rekindled some thought possibilities for her.

She suggested they do lunch, but nothing has come of it yet. She has a super busy daytime schedule because of school though. So maybe I'll have something interesting to say about that in a few weeks.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday: The First Date And The Gala Date

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced. She's able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, an actively dating single woman, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well. I find her love life pretty entertaining, so she was the perfect person to add to the medley. Enjoy.***

Quick Recap [Last time I posted about Camille I mentioned two guys you need to know about for Camille: King and Malik. King has I'm-just-not-that-into-you-itis, so you'll have to read the last post to get any info on him. Malik however, has provided lots of new action. I am supposed to be writing about her first date with Malik and her gala date with Malik. I'll get to that now]
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Camille's first date with Malik was interesting because of all the activity before the date actually happened. She drove to his place and he drove from there. While they were there, he gives her a tour and she discovers she's not a fan of the way the apartment is set up, all the way down to the too-large television in the bedroom. She informs him of this fact, which I found hilarious.

They leave to go to the restaurant (one of my favorites in the world), but they make a stop first at his... family reunion! Yes, indeed. They stopped on their way to their first date to a family reunion. And the cherry on top is that when Malik introduced Camille to his dad and aunts (or something like that), he said, "oh is this the fiance?" Their first date! Did Camille go running as fast as her feet could carry her? Nah, she just accepted that perhaps his family was a little zany.

But there's more. At the family reunion, half the family is Camille's religion, half is Malik's religion. Those two halves were having a religious debate. At the family reunion. Holy books came out. I'm not kidding. Let's just move on to dinner. Compared to the first half of the story, dinner was non-eventful except to let Camille know she was a fan of Malik and was looking forward to the gala event the next weekend.

Michelle and I went shopping with her a couple of times throughout that next week so she could find the perfect dress. Easier said than done since the style of fancy dressed look suspiciously like the party dresses I wore as a six year old. Camille wanted a floor length gown (even though she has the most amazing legs) so floor length gown we found, finally, at the 28th store. There is nothing wrong with exaggerating.

On to the gala. Malik was late, very late. He was so late! Now that I'm done beating that dead horse, Michelle and I were at Camille's house to see her off, and we were there an extra hour! Okay, now I'm done. But after we met Malik, we were pleased. Michelle and I agreed that while he was shorter than he claimed, he was attractive, had style, looked good in a suit, and was probably the exact kind of guy we like to hang out with. We imagined he would be tons of fun if he was around long enough to actually spend time with our whole group of friends.

Malik wasn't on his best behavior for the night. He was a bit neglectful at the gala. He was hanging out with his friends and taking lots of pictures, leaving Camille to fend for herself most of the evening. Then he dropped her off at home to go hang out with his friends, and came back to her house later that night to sleep. Camille wasn't pleased at all with this behavior, but I'm guessing it was chalked up to miscellaneous guy stupid-ness. Since that time, he hasn't made any such major blunders as ditching his chick for his friends, so we still like him for now. Next post, I'll update on how they've managed to spend time together even though they both have busy schedules. That's right ladies and gentleman, when a man wants to spend time with you, he does.

Camille's Wishful Wednesday

I wrote a post yesterday about some changes to this blog. This is the first implementation of that. Sorry, Lion, but your love life doesn't have enough for me to write about anymore. So, I'd like to introduce Camille. She is a friend of Michelle's and mine. We all hung out as friends at church as teenagers. She is a college graduate and now a first year law student in Chicago! I'm excited about that Chicago part because it means we'll be in the same city and that should make it easier for us to stay the good friends we've become. Cause grad professional school is no joke.

***Camille is a friend of mine I know from church. She is classified on another blog I read as a "hopeless romantic", and I think that describes her pretty well. I also think she's incredibly well-balanced. She's able to work on multiple parts of herself at once. She is a law student, an actively dating single woman, a Sunday school teacher, and an all-around good person. She has some pretty concrete ideas about men and the type of man she'd like to end up with. But she's doing the in-my-20s-dating-follies thing as well. I find her love life pretty entertaining, so she was the perfect person to add to the medley. Enjoy.***

In most of my intros about my friends in The Medley (that's my nickname for this blog), I talk a bit about their lives and a lot about their current romantic situation. I think I covered enough non-love life stuff about Camille in the first two paragraphs, so we're just going to jump right into her love life. There are two guys you need to know about. The first we'll call King. The second we'll call Malik.

King is the guy who Camille describes as "the like of my life." She likes him, a lot. I think he's the guy she'd pick right now if she had to settle down first thing tomorrow morning. She talks about him and there is this combination of frustration, happiness, and hope. It all feels very familiar since I'm constantly at the point with men (I wonder if that means we both have bad taste in good men...). But King is this man she likes because she likes the way she feels with him. He's got this busy life and is out of town a lot, especially during the summer. The time they do spend together always produces a good story. Like the time they slow danced to that Luther Vandross song. But, King unfortunately exhibits some he's-just-not-that-into-you behavior every now and then. Does he like her? Of course. Does he like her enough? We don't know. The moral of the story? Men are stupid from age 15 to at least age 33. I will let you know if my (or my friends') personal experiences require that I raise that age.

On to Malik. Malik was introduced to Camille by a mutual friend from work. They talked for a while and decided they like each other. I should stop here to explain one of Camille's tendencies. She's that girl who meets a guy and then immediately starts thinking out the next few years months weeks days with him before there's even been the foundation for such fanciful thoughts (I know I know, I do the same thing. Don't judge us.). Back to Malik. After they met, he started texting and calling her. He called her that night. He planned their first date, he invited her to be his date at his fraternity's 100th year anniversary gala. He basically etched out the next three weeks for them. And Camille's response was amusing. She found it weird that someone else was doing what she usually does. I told her to go with it and let someone else plan out the future and see where it goes. She's liking him so far in spite of all their early hurdles (her aversion to men who aren't tall enough, their difference in religion, his zany family). Next week, I'll talk about their first date and the gala date.